What i desperately need help on is how to get the spiders to index my site, and then, where i should put my metatags, and how.

My questions:

1. I need to allow the crawlers to get into the other pages of my site, so do i make a link to every page on my site in the <noframes> section? or should i put a link to the crawler page instead?

2. Say i have a home improvement site, and these are the keywords i want to put on my doorway page:

home improvement
home loan
home decorating
home plan
home decor
home design
home repair
home interior

I assume this is considered spamming, and i would be penalized by the SE's. How would i get around this?

3. I have read that you should have a page for every keyword with other optimized keywords. Say i have a "kitchen" page within the home improvement site, and want to use these keywords on the kitchen page:

kitchen cabinet
kitchen design
kitchen appliance
kitchen sink
kitchen remodeling
kitchen aid
kitchen island
kitchen furniture

Am i better off to just use those words without "kitchen" in front of them? (ie. cabinet, design, appliance), since i'm already in the kitchen page? And because the page is framed, will the keywords even make a difference? or would i have to make another doorway page? (which really wouldn't make sense in my case)

Plz HELP....my a** is on the line...
= )

Thanks in advance,

Rick.

Example here: http://www.ultimatemarketingsecrets.com/secrets/marketing/index.html

How long does it normally take for the search engines to spider and index the doorways? My links pages *have* been indexed, but not the doorway pages.

Thanks,
Ryan Berg

My original suggestion was that they make a static home page with the same look and feel but minus all the .php. I also gave them the option of a server side redirect which I wish now that I did not mention.

What kind of issues am I faced with optimizing a site that has a server side redirect to an optimized login.php file? Again, there are no unusual characters in the file extension of the login.php.

They do not want to do any parsing, so my content rich information pages strategy is going to be the power behind the SEO campaign. Any qualified advice would be much appreciated, thanks!

Oh, by the way, I did get them to take about 15 pages of features and benefits out of .php and into .htm to assist with the campaign. They just don't want to change the login procedures.

"Someone can telnet to your web server and report their agent name as being from a particular search engine. Then they see exactly what you are delivering. Additionally, some search engines may not always report the exact same agent name, specifically to help keep people honest."

Does this work? and if it works, does anyone know how to telnet to another web address and report as a search engine?

Since you asked few specific questions there is not much to answer.

But, please stop thinking about ways to spam. A home improvement site is not about home loans, leave that term to the loan guys. How would it be if the home loan guys took your spot for home decor?

My own experience has been that by submitting them, they quickly seem to get good rankings, assuming good doorway construction.

Be sure to submit them to Anzwers and you'll see them appearing on Inktomi driven engines within about three or four days. At least this has been the case for the last few months. Also, AV is indexing every week to about ten or twelve days. I would recommend that you submit to the major SEs without further delay.

Most are run with MySQL databases.

If your clients don't want to parse the URLs, I'm not sure how they expect you to successfully promote the site without some healthy static html pages for SE fodder.

What's more, if the only reason they're using PHP is to perform login functions against a flat file or tracking logs, etc., they aren't really using it to any great extent anyway.

It seems silly to put up a potentially powerful PHP page and then use something as silly as a SE-blocking meta refresh to send folks on down the line.

Parsing is certainly no big deal and can have monumental benefits so long as the existing site is not huge and absent templates or includes with would make your task of altering link structures much easier.

So I suppose a lot of your choice must depend upon the existing architecture and the client's devotion to the current design.

Anyone know the specific law about this?

HmMm...i thought i was quite specific already. Lemme try and rephrase what i'm asking:

2. Is it OK to repeat the word "home" in so many keyphrases? And if not, is there any way i can use those keyphrases in some other way?

3. Because the only way getting to the "kitchen" page is through the navbar, and it appears in a frame, i don't think it's really possible (or user friendly) for me to make a doorway. Is this a problem for me? If i put metatags in that kitchen page, would they ever be reached?

Hopefully this is more clear.

Thanks again.

(PS. i really DO have a home loans section in my site)

Ryan

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When I am making adjustments to the listing generally i do it as quickly as the SE will permit without it penalizing.

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The majority of inbound visitors would typically be logging in immediately so they wanted to make sure that was the first page the user sees. I know, I know, one click away, but thats one click more than they have to make now.

I just need to know if the server side redirect is going to be an issue. And, is there still a static .html page that resides in the main directory? If so, I'm sure that is the page I'll optimize in addition to the login.php.

Help me, I've fallen down and can't get up!

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2. Is it OK to repeat the word "home" in so many keyphrases? And if not, is there any way i can use those keyphrases in some other way?

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The answer could be yes or no, it depends on other factors, mainly your file size.

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3. Because the only way getting to the "kitchen" page is through the navbar, and it appears in a frame, i don't think it's really possible (or user friendly) for me to make a doorway. Is this a problem for me? If i put metatags in that kitchen page, would they ever be reached?

(PS. i really DO have a home loans section in my site)

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No, not by most spiders, you need a doorway page.

On your PS, I still advise against it. It would be easy for a home loan company to turn you in as a spammer since you are not a home loan company, web page or not. I could make a home loan page too, but since I do not actually have home loans I would be spamming. Non-relevent spam is the cause of all these hoops we have to jump through to get relevent content indexed. Stopping it is a main goal of all the engines.